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So what kind of things are going on here?

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Well, this is the room that we've had.

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Our guests have had the greatest amount of activity.

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They described that sometime between 2 and 2.30 in the morning,

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they're awakened when a small child comes into the house

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and is patting them on the cheek.

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I'm catching it.

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You know, I have always suspected that maybe this is a guest, doesn't it?

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I hope tonight you all will be able to tell me who all is staying here.

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Yeah, I'll tell you.

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Hopefully we'll be able to find some answers for you.

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Maybe TAPS will be able to provide us with some kind of proof,

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something that will affirm what we think is going on here.

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I get a 1.7 at the top of the stairs.

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1.7?

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2.4. There's gotta be something over here.

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You know that feeling you get when you walk by an empty space?

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You get that real heavy in this house.

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It seems like the dark places are really dark.

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Where's that door going?

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To the underworld.

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The underworld.

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Open the cret.

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Yes.

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Holy crap, that thing blinded.

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Yeah, it's like an arc welded.

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Just me and the air get like really thick.

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I was just thinking that I could really feel the difference between the air coming out of the door here

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and what's going on around us.

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Yeah, it was just like, all of a sudden, I'm in the back of the head.

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Yeah, I did feel that.

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And we got a 2.5.

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3.6.

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Here's two pictures over here.

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4.5.

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5.1.

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3.6.

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5.5.

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5.1.

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4.2.2.0.

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2.0.

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Yeah, 0.3.

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I hate that.

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It's like you're trying to find out where the source is and it just drops on you.

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This house is bad like that.

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Sounds like the longest thunder you've ever heard in your life.

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Look at that.

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You see it too?

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Yeah, it just came over here.

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Grant and me were standing in the basement by the furnace when I saw what looked like a shadow dart through some shelves and boxes.

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At first I thought it was your shadow, guys.

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No way, I was standing still and it moved over here.

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It was very light gray.

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It wasn't like it was blocking completely.

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I might get anything higher over here though.

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Whatever it was we saw, we had cornered them in our shelves.

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We looked and there was nothing there.

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Some places like born to play tricks on you.

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Or there's something here.

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I wonder if he's grounded his plumbing.

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Working for a rotor router you come across where they've grounded the wiring in the house to the copper pipe.

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And sometimes when that's not done right you'll have a current going through the pipe.

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4.0.

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0.2.

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0.3.

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And so anywhere there's copper in the house you're going to have also an electromagnetic field.

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I would explain why he only feels that way in this house if we can track it to electromagnetic hypersensitivity that we might have solved this problem.

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If you're electromagnetic hypersensitive that could certainly cause seeing things that aren't there of wavy or blurry vision.

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Black spots in their vision moving.

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People who live near high power lines and things like that.

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It would just be, it would probably be horrendous for you.

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Hey Donna.

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Hey, what's up?

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I just had a little talk with Kathy.

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She's really bothered by all this.

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Worrying about a friend.

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I'm wondering if you could take some time tonight.

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Sure.

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Sit down with her heart to heart.

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Yeah.

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And one of the things I'd like for you to express to her is no matter how uncomfortable this place feels to you, it's Dave's home.

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So you know try not to make him feel more uncomfortable.

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That's a good point.

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You know what I'm saying?

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She comes in and says I feel horrible.

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This place is oppressive.

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It may drag him down.

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Right.

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He doesn't need that.

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Yeah, okay.

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Yeah, I'll do that.

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Okay, cool.

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Thanks.

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You're welcome.

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What did you have it for?

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Only a couple of months.

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Couple of months?

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Did you guys meet through work or?

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Met through my brother.

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My brother called me and said I think you need to call him and talk to him.

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You just say hi now.

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Yeah.

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I said okay, I'll meet him and I talk to him.

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I sense somebody was really wrong, you know.

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What do you want for your friend, Dave?

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What do you hope can happen for him to cope?

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It's like a little emotional.

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It's okay.

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It's okay.

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I just want him to show some help.

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Yeah, you want him to...

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Get his life back.

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And how he used to be.

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And he's just suffering and...

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It's okay, it's okay.

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You feel like he's trapped in this place.

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Trapped in, yeah.

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Yeah, a very spiritual person, you know, and I'll let that help people and I want to help

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him in any way I possibly can, you know.

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Now, when you come over and you visit David here, you seem like a sensitive type.

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Do you tell him what you're feeling when you come here?

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Oh, I just came over yesterday and a lot of fear yesterday.

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A lot of fear.

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Very, very strong.

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Really?

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It's like an impending doom feeling that you're, when you say fear.

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To the point where I was panicking, yeah.

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Does David bring up to you what he's feeling when you come over or do you kind of, you

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know, drag it out of him when you talk to him about it?

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I mean, does he offer up that information?

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Yes, yes, he does.

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He does.

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I've had a lot of situations that maybe I can help him understand.

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And just to be there to listen.

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You just want to talk to, you know.

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Right.

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Just be there as a friend and care about him and care about his well-being.

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One of the things that could help, David, is when you come over, take a step back, get

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a little centered, a little grounded, and not express everything that you're feeling.

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Because he, what's happening is you're feeling it, genuinely.

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You're feeling scared.

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You're feeling terrified.

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And it's a reality for you.

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But if he's not experiencing that, but he hears it, he's going to store that as an experience

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for himself and his interpretation of everything.

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Be really selective about what you relate to him and your experiences.

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Only give him information that you know is factual, you know, rather than feelings.

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And that will help to reduce his fear level.

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And I hope we can bring you guys some peace tonight.

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I hope we can find some answers.

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Thank you for being so strong for your friend.

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This way, Brian.

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What's over here?

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Let's see what can be given people that's a dread.

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Now this is the dread pit.

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Yeah, it's a pit of hell.

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See that?

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Yeah.

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That's a stress crack in the foundation.

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Yep.

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We can't go in that certain part right there.

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Oh yeah, because it's a big pit, right?

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Yeah, the big pit.

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All right over there, it drops down four-five feet.

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It's the cesspool.

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Cesspool.

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Get the email to Dr. Altmanus, this is what we're here for.

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It's already out.

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Getting anything?

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Point one.

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You're at 53 degrees for me.

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Don't forget the bucket full of water.

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That's water?

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None of it might be.

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What?

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Maybe some kind of chemical that gets grease off of things.

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It looks like there's metal in there.

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Looks like it's eating it off.

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Oh, it stinks, dude.

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Yeah.

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Dude, what the hell is that?